The link, like the connection between hardcore punk and hip-hop that was going on. And we had this punk hardcore band at this time and we had Liquid Liquid, which was like the groove music. And Rick Rubin goes to Ed, he says, “I want to put on a show, I want to do something with your acts.” And so we came up with this concept, uptown meets downtown, we had the Treacherous Three, “Rock the body body, rock the body body.” They had that jam at the time. He was the hip underground guy at that time. And we had this guy, Ed Bahlman, he was a producer and everything like that, and he had a record shop. We had this underground label called 99 Records on MacDougal Street in the village. Rick Rubin was a student at the NYU at the time. what’s his name? He produced some of the Beastie Boys and Johnny Cash?Īh, Rick Rubin, alright. it was it, you know, so we were feeling the warmth. “.introducing the crew, you got to see to believe, we are one, two, three, four, five MCs.” It was just. You had the five of them rapping over that. But, they played this wicked, wicked groove. Another thing, this is all pre-sampling, this is pre-video. 2.” It’s played live, the Sugarhill House Band played that, there were no samples in it. Well the first hip-hop stuff I heard was Kurtis Blow’s “The Breaks.” We were really into that jam.īut the real thing that I loved so much, which really colored my perception of Grandmaster Flash eventually using our tracks, there was this jam they had called “Super Rappin No. So what was like the first hip-hop stuff that you saw? But it actually hadn’t been solidified yet. You know, it had been maybe in parks, in nightclubs. The time of the Liquid Liquid records is just the dawn of hip-hop coming onto record. It’s also important to think about it as the time before hip-hop was really on record. Mistakes were possibly a lot of people’s only spontaneous moments. People were a little more tolerant of your quirkiness. So there was a whole different texture and it allowed you to be a little more quirky. Before then you would go and see a live show to see how things were supposed to look, you know, and how they’re supposed to feel. Because that illustrated how things were supposed to be. I mean, remember too, this was before the video age and that changed everything. But it wasn’t like this big conscious thing, people were just doing their thing. I don’t know if they were any more open, but there was this feeling that it was time to see what we can learn from each other. I mean, there was a convergence of the hip-hop scene and a downtown dance-rock scene.īack then everything seemed fresher and newer. There was all this kind of innovation going on uptown, downtown. But then we started getting the groove on, we started getting the big beat because the big beat was in the air. When we were kind of a punk band, we called ourselves Liquid Idiot and played CBGB’s back in the day and all of that. ![]() ![]() I mean, we had a few manifestations self-produced like 7" 45s and stuff like that. So the first Liquid Liquid record is actually, what? Liquid Attack or something? And then as we hit the ’80s come on and a whole new thing started coming into play. So we come out of that aesthetic, you know. And once you learned that instrument, you would put it down and pick up another one because really knowing how to play your instrument really well was not looked at as a good thing because it stifled creativity and innovation. Actually, you would pick up an instrument and start playing. You know, you weren’t following any template. It was very much a do-it-yourself aesthetic. Music seemed to be the thing to express yourself through. And an aesthetic of the punk rock thing was, whatever else you were doing, whether you were a chef, whether you were a visual artist, whether you were an athlete, you seemed to form a band. So let’s rewind to before there was a Liquid Liquid.īasically, we come out of the punk rock scene of the ‘70s. Yes, we should actually go back to the point of how did this song cross over to this crowd? You know, this is pretty unique. Yeah it’s more accessible, their version, you know. They lifted the tones up and I think they made them a little bit more radio. And actually, you might want to know that that band that replayed it, if you listen to it it’s definitely a crappier version as far as the production and whatnot. So anyway, they had their band replay that.
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